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This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Daily

President Trump’s tariffs have terrified stock markets, business owners and anyone with a 401(k). Does that mean that his approach to trade is becoming a major political liability?

Astead W. Herndon, a national politics reporter, asked voters in Michigan what they thought. He found that the answer to that question was not so simple.

Guest: Astead W. Herndon, a national politics reporter and host of the politics podcast “The Run-Up.”

Background reading: 

 • Video: Mr. Trump loves tariffs. 
Do all Americans • ?
 • Here’s 
what six voters think • of the administration’s latest actions.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times

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Do Trump Voters Like His Tariffs? We Went to Michigan to Find Out.

On Tuesday, the Supreme Court heard a case that could hand parents with religious objections a lot more control over what their kids learn in the classroom.

Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court, explains how a case about children’s picture books with titles like “Pride Puppy” and “Uncle Bobby’s Wedding” has broad implications for schools across the country.

Guest: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court and writes Sidebar, a column on legal developments, for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • In a lively and sometimes heated argument, 
the Supreme Court’s conservative majority appeared set to allow opt-outs from L.G.B.T.Q. stories in schools • .

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images

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Children’s Books Go Before the Supreme Court

Across the country, millions of Americans with unpaid student loans are discovering that years of patience and forgiveness from the U.S. government have officially come to an end.

Stacy Cowley, a business reporter for The Times, explains what is behind the change of heart, sets out its financial consequences for borrowers — and discusses the larger reckoning that it may cause about how Americans pay for higher education.

Guest: Stacy Cowley, a business reporter at The New York Times, with a focus on consumer finance.

Background reading: 

 • Millions of student loan borrowers 
are behind on payments • .

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Seth Wenig/Associated Press

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Is the Era of Student Loan Forgiveness Officially Over?

Church bells rang out across the world on Monday to mark the death of Pope Francis at the age of 88.

Jason Horowitz, the Rome bureau chief at The New York Times, discusses the pope’s push to change the church, his bitter clashes with traditionalists, and what his papacy meant to the world’s 1.4 billion Catholics.

Guest: Jason Horowitz, the Rome bureau chief of The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • For Jason Horowitz, 
Pope Francis was always a surprise • .
 • Francis’ death 
silences a voice for the voiceless • .

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Photo: Andrew Medichini/Associated Press

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How Pope Francis Changed the Catholic Church

In the increasingly bitter trade war between the United States and China, perhaps nobody has more at stake than America’s soybean farmers, whose crop has become the country’s single biggest export to China.

Michael Barbaro speaks to an Iowa farmer who helped build that $13 billion market, and asks her what President Trump’s sky-high tariffs mean for her and for tens of thousands of other American farmers.

Guest: April Hemmes, a soybean farmer in Iowa.

Background reading: 

 • Soybean producers warned that 
farms could go under • after the Trump administration hit China with tariffs of 145 percent.
 • China has long relied on the U.S. for soybeans. But with new steep tariffs, it is likely to look even more 
to Brazil and Argentina • .

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Kathryn Gamble for The New York Times

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What an Iowa Farmer Fears About the Trade War

The Academy Award-winning actress discusses her lifelong quest for connection, humanity’s innate goodness and the point of being alive.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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'The Interview': Tilda Swinton Would Like a Word With Trump About His Mother

The host of the “Call Her Daddy” podcast and founder of the Unwell Network discusses her interview with Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the 2024 election, her podcast’s journey from chatting about sex advice to delving into more serious subjects and how the Unwell Network’s fan merchandise became a eight-figure business.

“I don’t care if people consider me a journalist or a podcaster, or just a girl that talks online every week.”

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand

Syria has been controlled by one family for more than half a century who ruled by repression, devastation and violence.

But about two weeks ago, the regime began to falter, and then over the course of one night, it collapsed.

Carlotta Gall, a senior correspondent for The New York Times, discusses the fall of Bashar al-Assad and what comes next.

Guest: Carlotta Gall, a senior correspondent for The New York Times, focusing on the human aspect of wars and civil strife.

Background reading: 

 • Live updates:
 The rebels who toppled Assad face stark challenges in Syria • .
 • With Assad gone, a brutal dictatorship ends.
 But the new risks are huge • .

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Inside The Fall Of Syria’s Brutal Dictator

Last week, the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare was shot and killed in Manhattan. A five-day search for the gunman ensued.

On Monday, a 26-year-old suspect, Luigi Mangione, was arrested in Pennsylvania after an employee at a McDonald’s recognized him and called the police.

Dionne Searcey, who covers wealth and corporations, and Maria Cramer, a crime reporter in New York City, break down what we know about the suspect, and what the case has revealed about many Americans’ contempt for insurance companies.

Guest: 

Dionne Searcey • , a reporter for The New York Times writing about how the choices made by people and corporations affect the future of our planet.
Maria Cramer • , a reporter for The New York Times covering the New York Police Department and crime in the city and surrounding areas.

Background reading: 

The suspect was an Ivy League tech graduate • from a prominent Maryland family who in recent months had suffered physical and psychological pain.
A visual timeline • of the UnitedHealthcare C.E.O. shooting.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

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The Manhunt, the Manifesto and the Murder Charge

On Sunday, after a fire that many feared would destroy it, and a swift renovation that defied all predictions, the Cathedral of Notre-Dame reopened to the public.

Michael Kimmelman, the chief architecture critic at The Times, tells the story of the miracle on the Seine.

Guest: Michael Kimmelman, the architecture critic of The New York Times and the founder and editor-at-large of Headway.

Background reading: 

 • Critic’s Notebook:
 Notre-Dame’s astonishing rebirth from the ashes • .
 • The rebuilding took about
 250 companies, 2,000 workers, about $900 million • , a tight deadline and a lot of national pride.
See photos • from the reopening.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

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Notre-Dame Rises From the Ashes

The once-fringe writer has long argued for an American monarchy. His ideas have found an audience in the incoming administration and Silicon Valley.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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'The Interview': Curtis Yarvin Says Democracy Is Done. Powerful Conservatives Are Listening.

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